Curse

Cuilan · Feb 26, 2010, 06:54 PM // 18:54

Whacha gonna do with the LA and MoR builds? Necrosis was either the primary skill to maintain Lyssa's Aura and was the spam skill for Mantra of Recovery. Any thoughts of replacements or has anyone tried to see if the builds are salvageable?

shinta_himura · Feb 26, 2010, 08:08 PM // 20:08

I'm incredibly pissed off. Why the hell are they nerfing Mesmers in every update? This is beyond stupid especially since there are other targets for them to go after that are MUCH MORE POWERFUL than a necrosis spamming mesmer, seriously...

Nightmare Angel · Feb 26, 2010, 08:37 PM // 20:37

Necrosis is not nerfed. For Mesmers, fair enough. But for necros like me, it's a great buff. You can now use it on foes under VoS, Spell Breaker or SF.

TheodenKing · Feb 26, 2010, 08:49 PM // 20:49

Necrosis was buffed for most uses. Your build is what was nerfed. Mesmers can find a different spell to spam.

Zodiac Meteor · Feb 26, 2010, 09:03 PM // 21:03

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Originally Posted by Nightmare Angel

Necrosis is not nerfed. For Mesmers, fair enough. But for necros like me, it's a great buff. You can now use it on foes under VoS, Spell Breaker or SF.

This. It's a great spell as it's a skill now. Backfire = won't work plus those pesky spells like the griffins Spell Breaker it will go right by. A small nerf in my opinion.

ajc2123 · Feb 26, 2010, 10:15 PM // 22:15

Necrosis is definatly better than it was. Even for my mesmer. Such proof is when I'm facing 6+ ice imps vanquishing, I can still get damage off without being worried.

And as others have said, griffins etc etc.

Also...I dont think ill use it on my ranger but i believe with expertise its practically free now lol.

Also, Energy drain > mantra imo.

maxxfury · Feb 27, 2010, 03:05 AM // 03:05

No big loss, the Mor and LA necrosis spammers were pretty weak anyway, especially after cop got nerfed and you couldnt echo it for big damages.

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Originally Posted by ajc2123

Also...I dont think ill use it on my ranger but i believe with expertise its practically free now lol.

Strap necrosis onto a touch ranger?

hides

Karate Jesus · Feb 27, 2010, 03:10 AM // 03:10

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Originally Posted by TheodenKing

Necrosis was buffed for most uses. Your build is what was nerfed. Mesmers can find a different spell to spam.

It was an intentional nerf to the mesmer builds that benefited from it.

Since it's been changed to a skill, it doesn't work with Arcane Echo, MoR, Fast Casting, or pretty much any other buff that Mesmers could use it for.

For Necros, it wasn't a buff. It essentially changed nothing for them.

maxxfury · Feb 27, 2010, 03:26 AM // 03:26

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Originally Posted by Karate Jesus

It was an intentional nerf to the mesmer builds that benefited from it.

For Necros, it wasn't a buff. It essentially changed nothing for them.

Other than bypassing 'anti-spell' skills.

Admittedly quite a niche effect as them skills arent overly prevalent

Waits for the conspiracy mesmers to come claiming it all an insidious plan to make them play a necro...

Cuilan · Feb 27, 2010, 03:51 AM // 03:51

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Originally Posted by Karate Jesus

It was an intentional nerf to the mesmer builds that benefited from it.

Update in only mentions it as a nerf because of the new buffs...in order to prevent abuse. Said nothing of mesmers or its current state.

Karate Jesus · Feb 27, 2010, 04:00 AM // 04:00

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Originally Posted by Cuilan

Update in only mentions it as a nerf because of the new buffs...in order to prevent abuse. Said nothing of mesmers.

Why else would they have done it?

I try not to believe everything Anet tells me. After all, every once in a while they lie

maxxfury · Feb 27, 2010, 04:15 AM // 04:15

I guess barbed signet? so you cant spam bleeding everywere, that would be OP right?...lol j/k

Cant see anything else the nec just got that would interact to powerfully with necrosis been a spell and not a skill..

Cuilan · Feb 27, 2010, 04:18 AM // 04:18

Interesting how the mesmer bars that had Necrosis in them were previously in the good section of PvX, not great.

maxxfury · Feb 27, 2010, 04:21 AM // 04:21

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Originally Posted by Cuilan

Interesting how the mesmer bars that had Necrosis in them were previously in the good section of PvX, not great.

already noted that they were pretty weak post cop nerf.

Karate Jesus · Feb 27, 2010, 04:21 AM // 04:21

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Originally Posted by Cuilan

Interesting how the mesmer bars that had Necrosis in them were previously in the good section of PvX, not great.

They typically had some sincere energy problems (except for the LA one). And there were other reasons, but I'm sure reading the talk pages would help you understand most of them.

Cuilan · Feb 27, 2010, 04:24 AM // 04:24

Ran the Mantra of Recovery one and manged to maintain casting. Not so strong , but it was playable with practice.

Hubert · Feb 28, 2010, 08:17 PM // 20:17

It was changed because of barbed signet, because together used you could just spam necrosis without bringing hexes or conditions here and there